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惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - xiangjq - 04-16-2008 09:07 PM
在下载《王菲-2003 菲比寻常Faye Wong Live DVD-NTSC-LPCM》之前，分享率是1点几，下载《王菲-2003 菲比寻常Faye Wong Live DVD-NTSC-LPCM》有9个种子供我，目前下到83.7%分享率已跌到0.509已经踩到警告红线，我有《A Night To Remember 港乐×黄凯芹 一夜情弦.华纳音乐香港三区双碟版OK视频/菜单+LIVE版DTSES6.1原唱音轨+过场中文字幕》一直在做种，可没有人跟进下载（见图）。
如此下去，还没等我下完《王菲-2003 菲比寻常Faye Wong Live DVD-NTSC-LPCM》就玩完了，别的新种我也不敢点添加了，对于我这样的小水管Ratio新手有没有好的补救办法？？？用积分换取提高分享率可行吗？？？
这个论坛新开不久，会员数量本身还比较少，电影下载的人多些，音乐类多数只有几个人下载，后继无人，长此下去，不要说我这样的小水管会因规则无奈离开（从上帝空间一路跟来 ），就是一些大水管也会感到岌岌可危。
这个论坛新开我就在向朋友推荐推广，我们都认同BT分享的要义，问题是那些大水管下完后有人可能为个提高分享率一直在做种，无可厚非，但留给小水管的机会少之又少，小水管 就不能或不适宜Ratio？？？
我不想这样离开！！！
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - tangwong - 04-16-2008 09:34 PM
1234lxh 兄有一個投票，請參加：
http://www.ourdvd.net/redirect.php?tid=18864&goto=lastpost#lastpost
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 雪泥鸿爪 - 04-16-2008 09:49 PM
http://bt.ourdvd.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=57
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - xiangjq - 04-16-2008 11:19 PM
已参阅，只有冀望第一时间下新种完档后尽力上传，只是还是怕大水喉不给喘息的机会
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - sony_maya - 04-17-2008 09:10 AM
我现在就在全里做种,才0.3,55555
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 大胃肚夫 - 04-17-2008 11:17 AM
偶的意见，这种模式就是不给小水管活路。
前两天，还因为这个问题和几个版主吵了一架。
好的出发点未必会有好的结果。
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 大胃肚夫 - 04-17-2008 12:09 PM
20％的人掌握80％的财富。
二八率也应该适合坛子，因此偶建议对于小水管而言，80％的小水管承担20％的上传任务，因此分享率达到25％即可，而非50％。
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - bebolan - 04-17-2008 12:17 PM
所以80%的窮人打劫20%的富人是合法的？
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - opx - 04-17-2008 01:12 PM
慢慢适应吧
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 杉头 - 04-17-2008 01:42 PM
《王菲-2003 菲比寻常Faye Wong Live DVD-NTSC-LPCM》
我也一样做种都没人下载,我已经删除了~
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 落叶知秋 - 04-17-2008 02:31 PM
其实，我准备ratio维持在2就行了，剩下的你们去传吧
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - andywth - 04-17-2008 04:35 PM
建议版主不定时不定期的给一些资源加上2x upload或free download,对于小水管来说也是不大不小的惊喜.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - hez_song - 04-17-2008 05:58 PM
一直挂着吧。
关键不在于你的带宽多大，而是在于你的时间多长。
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - aprilia - 04-17-2008 07:06 PM
二八率也应该适合坛子，因此偶建议对于小水管而言，80％的小水管承担20％的上传任务，因此分享率达到25％即可，而非50％。
BT就是一个零和游戏,现在设置0.5就必然要有人做1.5,现在这个缺口都未必有人愿意去填补,设置0.2你还是在外面算了,什么限制都没有
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - helphelp911 - 04-18-2008 08:11 AM
i just wonder can we get one more week before our account got deleted? For example, 2 week under 0.5 ratio before account got deleted?
Because only one week is too short for my case
For instance, if i uncap both uplaod and download. the speed is normally at
200k download/ 25k upload
ratio is 8:1
that mean if i download at that speed for 2 days, i have to seed 2*4 days to complete the 0.5 ratio if i am lucky @ 25k all the time. You know there are many cases where you cannot upload at your wish
I know i can pause download in the half way and wait for ratio back to 0.5 but sometimes i really want to watch the movie asap.
So if you can change it from one week to two week period, i think most of people can live with that even with slow upload speed. ( Come on, you got 2 weeks to fix your ratio )
Thanks for reading long post.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 大胃肚夫 - 04-18-2008 08:17 AM
二八率也应该适合坛子，因此偶建议对于小水管而言，80％的小水管承担20％的上传任务，因此分享率达到25％即可，而非50％。
BT就是一个零和游戏,现在设置0.5就必然要有人做1.5,现在这个缺口都未必有人愿意去填补,设置0.2你还是在外面算了,什么限制都没有
发表意见是偶的自由，去留同样是偶的自由。
偶会根据坛子的资源选择去留的，这个问题就谢谢版主们的“关心”了。
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - bigcondor - 04-18-2008 09:26 AM
Because only one week is too short for my case
For instance, if i uncap both uplaod and download. the speed is normally at
200k download/ 25k upload
ratio is 8:1
that mean if i download at that speed for 2 days, i have to seed 2*4 days to complete the 0.5 ratio if i am lucky @ 25k all the time. You know there are many cases where you cannot upload at your wish
I know i can pause download in the half way and wait for ratio back to 0.5 but sometimes i really want to watch the movie asap.
So if you can change it from one week to two week period, i think most of people can live with that even with slow upload speed. ( Come on, you got 2 weeks to fix your ratio )
Thanks for reading long post.
In the first instance, when you finish a download and start to seed and if your ratio is low, then you shouldn't start another download to endanger your stituation.
For example, to reinforce your status, I suggest you at least gain a ratio of 1 before starting another download. So, even if you do not gain any upload during the next download you are still safe. Besides, you gain points from seeding, which in turn can be converted to upload credits. In ratio system, a seed can last for a long time and there is no need to rush to the post when you are not well-prepared!
1 week's time is a rule and everyone has to stick to it.
It is within our discretion to settle individual case separately.
Ratio is a system that rectifies your attitude towards BT!
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - helphelp911 - 04-18-2008 09:41 AM
Thanks bigcondor, i just aware there is a point system for backup. I will try my best to get up the ratio. now i am really regret to d/l the STEPHEN CHOW周星馳十全大補第三貼. 38.8G for my first download here.....my ratio is 0.12 because of it.
Hope i can get it up 0.5 ratio. Only need upload 19G in one week.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 163james - 04-18-2008 10:15 AM
Hope i can get it up 0.5 ratio. Only need upload 19G in one week.
ha..ha... upload 19G in one week, that's hard for our 2M ADSL.
so that's why i never try to download such huge movies, really cannot 
try to get in the first time once the torrent published, so you will get more chance to upload. and try to get your ratio more than 0.5 as a backup to download more movies. i upload a few days ago when i dont have much to download and my ratio raised to 0.9xx. now even i
download 3 movies without any uploading, my ratio will still stay above 0.5
good luck to you and i believe you will find a good way.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 163james - 04-18-2008 10:18 AM
BTW, the upload should be 40K to 50K instead of 25K for your ADSL if your download is 200K.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - andywth - 04-18-2008 10:25 AM
......
Thanks for reading long post.
Your download speed is much faster then upload, so you can try to leech the newest torrents and use the advantage of your fast downloading to complete it, and then you will be ahead of other leeches, and it makes you get the good chance to increase your upload credit.
Good luck.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - helphelp911 - 04-18-2008 10:52 AM
Thanks for all helps and replies.
Now i am planning to finish d/l STEPHEN CHOW周星馳十全大補第三貼 asap. then stop all downloads and seed for 24/7. hope this can save myself.
p.s. my max upload is only 35k -40k without any download. SAD
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - bigcondor - 04-18-2008 11:15 AM
As others had said, seeds of large size is a "trap" for beginners.
And this "Stephen Chow" is really a "gaint trap"!
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - 随风 - 04-18-2008 12:43 PM
试帖试帖,借地方发个试帖
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - helphelp911 - 04-18-2008 01:10 PM
hi bigcondor, so what should i do? Stop the "stephen chow" now and start download newest torrent and seed the newest torrent?????? "stephen chow" is my frist and only d/l so far right now. dxxm, i am doom
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - bigcondor - 04-18-2008 02:53 PM
It all depends on how much you have finished. If your portion is low then I suggest you stop and join other heat item to gain your ratio before you continue on this one.
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - xiangjq - 04-20-2008 12:11 AM
二八率也应该适合坛子，因此偶建议对于小水管而言，80％的小水管承担20％的上传任务，因此分享率达到25％即可，而非50％。
赞成，可是谁有三寸不烂之舌去说服？？？好的出发点未必会有好的结果，大虾们也不愿看到
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - bebolan - 04-20-2008 02:23 AM
隨便找一個論壇以非R的方式分享，也比0.25高吧
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - zegna1 - 04-20-2008 10:48 PM
二八率也应该适合坛子，因此偶建议对于小水管而言，80％的小水管承担20％的上传任务，因此分享率达到25％即可，而非50％。
玩了2个礼拜的RATIO有种被劫持的感觉，原本很简单的娱乐现在变成了一种负担，真的得认真思考去留问题了，小水管想玩RATIO有点说不清楚的味道，除非电脑和网络仅 仅是用来玩RATIO,而且还得是不计成本（机器损耗，电费等）！
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - LCD1525X - 04-21-2008 04:51 PM
原创者发布种子目的也是让大家分享，Ratio的目的是让后来者有机会得到分享，应考虑小水管需要较长时间去做贡献，因此要适当放宽对小水管的时间限制，俗话说“青青之火 可以燎原”，让广大BT用户真正成为“我为人人，人人为我”，这样大家都能提高下载速度，否则小水管不敢下载大文件，最终的速度提不起，原创者也很累，损害的还是大家。
RE: 惨痛的教训，我该怎么办？？？ - jasonec - 04-24-2008 11:08 PM
進了這個論壇才知道bt世界原來有那麼多人
打著小水管名義, 義正辭嚴地, 堂而皇之地下了就跑.